I’m looking for an Apple MacBook Air M2 alternative that could run Linux.
I need something fanless, super lightweight with very long battery life. The only apps I use are Shotcut video editor, Chrome and Firefox.
Any advice?
Is it a good idea to get a MacBook Air m2 and use something like Asahi Linux or should I wait for arm linux laptops to become available.
The thinkpad-x13s-snapdragon is fanless and uses a qualcomm snapdragon processor, so an ARM like the macs use but lower performance. Batttery life is reputedly in the 20+ hour range.
Caveats:
- kinda pricey, 1K
- this arm chip is slow compared to macs.
- out of the mainstream so better do your homework on whether linux is well supported.
Laptops based on the snapdragon elite processors will come out this year, and performance should be comparable to the Mx macs. So maybe better to wait. Although, those may be considerably more expensive, and who knows what linux support will be like, especially at first.
It’s tricky enough getting hardware video encode to work on Linux with “this is just an Intel IGP, the exact same thing as every other Intel IGP”. Decode can even be tricky at times. I am very pessimistic about getting video editing software working on a system as far off the beaten path as a Snapdragon.
If you stick with more mainline hardware, you have fallback positions like “use linux Davinci” or “dual boot Windows and use one of the gazillion tools there”, or “MacOS has its own cavalcade of media tools”.
The gpu is fully supported to my knowledge.
1k? My last MacBook was 5k
My budget for laptops has always been <$350. Why are you willing to spend so much on a laptop?
If it’s a revenue generating machine, the impact of 10 or 20% improvement in day to day could recoup the additional cost in a few months or a year.
Similarly, for someone who travels a lot, having a useful battery life of 8-10 hours of internet+video playback allows a work routine that is worry free wrt charging and this allows tighter travel schedules.
Ofc, this isn’t the case every time, but this creates anchor effect on several segments of the market. This also doesn’t include the extra cost of “luxury” aka thin and light or small bezels.
350 USD is perfectly fine if you don’t need a ton of battery life or color accurate screen or multimedia or multicore workloads. If you need any of this, most of the options get pricier than 700 USD. It’s not uncommon to have to shell out 1500 USD or more for the desired specs.
Cheap, or second hand laptops, aren’t as good as new laptops. Whether the difference is worth it is a matter of opinion, but the difference between a $350 machine and a $3500 machine is extremely obvious.
I have an M1 MBA and it runs Asahi just fine, for the most part. And it should suit you well too, since you’re only going to use basic apps. Even if there are some limitations currently, you could always run Linux inside a VM such as UTM.
But may I ask why do you want to run Linux, when you’re going to use only those three apps? Objectively, Linux wouldn’t be offering you much in your use case, and in fact if battery life is your primary concern, you’d be better off sticking with macOS. Another option could be a Chromebook.
There are some purpose-built ARM Linux laptops available but as an owner of an unused Pinebook Pro… can’t recommend
Walking the path of a PC hater is not easy
I don’t like apple as a company and their attitude towards repair makes it so i feel obligated to never recommend one of their products, but if you need it to be fanless, a macbook air is prolly your only really good option, honestly though an m1 should be just fine (I’m assuming your video editing workloads are pretty light), also i recommend checking out Just Josh on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtHm9ai5zSb-yfRnnUBopAg, he has some great laptop reviews
I use asahi on a MacBook air, and love it. The battery life on sleep mode has been improving but it’s nowhere near the voodoo Apple does to MacOs. I recently installed Linux on my Asus machine and found the process and community to be really helpful, so maybe that’s an option for you. Check out https://asus-linux.org/
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Apple silicon is in no way a ‘quantum leap’ over anything. Even arm’s general efficiency in low power situations diminish as it enters ultrabook territory
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Where did you pull that from? Both amd and Intel has 20W class cpus that compete with base m-series cpus while being based on older nodes
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OK it seems all ‘15W’ cpus from those brands boost much higher so the wattages aren’t as good as I thought but here are some that still compete:
M3 - 3nm, 20W
Amd 7840U - 4nm, 30W, 15% slower on single thread and 20% faster on multi thread.
Intel 1365U - 10nm, 25-55W, 15% slower on multi thread
The only company that can achieve that kind of efficiency is Apple. I say this as a proud Apple hater.
It is not about efficiency, we already know for some time that x86 is not really efficient compared to newer architectures like arm and risc.
But no other ecosystem exists that can force such an architecture move without much much more problems.
So i would rephrase it as “The only company that can force that kind of fundamental change on its user and developers is Apple”
I am not saying it is a bad thing (just alone the rosetta translate layer is actually really impressive). Would love to have some actually good and mainstream arm options such as Linux Laptop.
Microsoft is trying the same - but royally screwing up how they deal with hardware partners. Performance wise the snapdragons they use are roughly a decade behind what Apple is doing - I have both systems for work projects.
The x86 emulation in Windows is imo better solved than rosetta - but the rest of the stack is a mess. For example, the deployment tools only got arm support a few months ago.
And Linux support on those things sucks - while using it on the M1 is great.
