TLDR: StartAllBack, ExplorerPatcher and some other projects are being blocked on 24H2.

One more reason to switch to Linux

  • orphiebaby@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    TL;DR: One more reason to switch to Linux

    “WINDOWS DID A BAD. EVERYONE JUMP SHIP, PRETTY PLEASE? No, we didn’t put into consideration any of the many reasons why one would use Windows over Linux. Linux good, Windows bad, black-and-white!”

    Completely irrelevant. Eff off with the Linux proselytizing, mate.

    • Sanctus@lemmy.world
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      Nah fuck that, call Microsoft out. Fix the fucking Control Panel/Settings nonsense. Stop fucking doing things just because I didn’t say not to. Stop adding all Microsoft apps to startup by default. There’s plenty of reasons to egg corporations and this bullshit is very light-handed. They have the resources and power to make great things, they chose to chase this dragon and leave their OS a fucken mess. They deserve it. Especially with all these Linux distros that are free popping up left and right. At one point we have to fight back against these huge ecosystems that become complacent, fall into dark patterns, and that point was yesterday.

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        I didn’t say I wasn’t calling Microsoft out. I just said I didn’t want to be proselytized with Linux, that Windows is still a more viable OS. It’s not zero sum— Microsoft can be shitty while still being more viable than Linux.

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          I just said I didn’t want to be proselytized with Linux, that Windows is still a more viable OS.

          Why did you say that when that’s false?

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              That Windows is a more viable OS. That’s clearly false. It’s a mess from fresh install and doesn’t get better after a few months.

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                This argument is so disingenuous and/or dumb that it’s not even worth addressing.

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      I mean it’s the only viable alternative. And it’s unquestionably that Microsoft has been making Windows worse recently.

      That said. I’m not convinced Microsoft is doing this to hurt users. I think it’s probably the correct assumption that they have seen a high number of crashes with 24H2 and these software packages.

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        It’s literally less viable than Windows. That’s an effing fact. Yeah, I’m an idealist too and I want a good FOSS operating system for everyone. But Linux isn’t a good FOSS operating system for everyone. It’s a slapped-together kernel with slapped-together software for tinkering nerds who hopefully can get the necessities and everything they care about actually working. And for people who want more-specific software, well, eff them, right?

        And forget about normal people. Y’all say you want every year to be the year of Linux on desktop, with the implication of it going mainstream. But you also don’t want it to become mainstream, because “if you’re not a tinkering nerd, eff you, and we’re not going to do anything about it. Linux isn’t for everyone, except we also want everyone on it”. Most Linux fans are dumb cult members who do not want to consider these things.

        If you want to solve the Linux problems, first thing you need is to go against the common Linux mentality. Get a big, well-organized group like Mozilla to produce an accessibility-ready, normie-ready, mainstream, FOSS version of Linux. And then they pay the devs to do things they don’t want to do, such as focusing on specific issues instead of doing whatever they feel like at the time, and on QA-testing. Hardware compatibility and hardware efficiency first.

        • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
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          You’re being cringe, mate. The majority of people that use a computer could switch to Linux tomorrow and be totally fine.

          I switched my parents to Linux months ago and they haven’t noticed the difference. And my parents know as much about computers as I know about quantum physics, just a hair more than jack shit.

          So funny how people like you claim to support FOSS but then constantly dump on Linux and FOSS software. You spread FUD about FOSS, you talk about how it’s only good for nerds and “cult members.”

          No, you’re not a realist or pragmatist or whatever you might think of yourself. You’re a corpo simp who won’t support FOSS unless it’s perfect in possible every way. Go take a toss and seethe.

        • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Most people who use Windows could switch to Linux easily (the light users, those that surf social media and stream content)

          People who game may have a harder time depending on the games they play (too many anti cheat games refuse to work on Linux)

          People who are locked into specific software suites would likely have the hardest time (people who use Windows exclusive software for work, etc)

          For me I’m a bit the first group (most of my PC usage) and the third group (Fusion 360 and Adobe Software (though I’m down to only Lightroom at this point)), but I’m also a power user for my systems in general. I’ve currently got 3 systems, 2 Linux machines and a Windows machine. I’m hoping that soon (before end of summer) I’ll be able to get that to 3 Linux machines and a Windows VM (just for Fusion 360 and Lightroom).

          Honestly only in the last year have I even been able to do the switch as much as I have as Linux in general has become a lot more newbie friendly. And my main driving factor was Windows 11’s TPM requirement. All my systems technically have one, but it’s disabled on all my systems.

          The only issue I’ve had with the flavor of Linux I’m using (Mint) is that changing the lock screen orientation and wallpaper was (IMO) harder than it needed to be. Especially considering that the steps it took to do it were both hard to find and easy to execute.

        • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Daily run it for the last 5 months. Switched cause I was tired of windows. Have thus far not been unable to do even a single thing. Games run better in proton than on windows native for me.

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              I wound up on arch :) I used mint for a while, and used to use Ubuntu and Mint a lot when I was in high school. But there were a lot of features of each I didn’t want and wanted an option to opt out of. Arch had a learning curve to it, just becoming accustomed to working with rolling release software.

              And like I play games and run media servers and a lot else off of this one desktop. I really don’t feel limited by it at all, except in cases like fortnite not allowing people to play on Linux even though it’s completely possible to do so.

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          It’s a slapped-together kernel with slapped-together software for tinkering nerds who hopefully can get the necessities and everything they care about actually working.

          Try OpenBSD, it’s very clean.

          And for people who want more-specific software, well, eff them, right?

          They are already effed, the only thing which will possibly allow them to escape Microsoft’s grip is Microsoft’s goodwill. They can wait for that if they wish so.

          If you want to solve the Linux problems, first thing you need is to go against the common Linux mentality.

          I see much more problems with Windows and you seem a Windows user who can’t switch due to something, which means you too realize the need, and still with Windows culture which created such a situation you are giving advice?

          Some self-awareness, please.

          Get a big, well-organized group like Mozilla to produce an accessibility-ready, normie-ready, mainstream, FOSS version of Linux.

          There are a few. OpenSUSE, Fedora, Mint.

          If you’ve tried Arch first due to thinking that you are very smart - that’s your own mistake (that aside, Arch is fine too).

          And then they pay the devs to do things they don’t want to do, such as focusing on specific issues instead of doing whatever they feel like at the time, and on QA-testing.

          That’s how it already works for many years.

          Hardware compatibility and hardware efficiency first.

          Drivers are normally supplied by hardware vendors. If they don’t make drivers for Linux, it takes work which may not be worth it, and the person who bought crappy hardware is at fault more than Linux developers.

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          Get a big, well-organized group like Mozilla to produce an accessibility-ready, normie-ready, mainstream, FOSS version of Linux.

          Linux Mint works out of the box and has every tool a normie would want installed and functional by default. The product you are asking for exists.

    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Imagine simping this hard for a monopolistic, spying, anti-consumer company with a market cap of $3,200,000,000,000

      Seriously, why get this fucking butthurt about a person expressing the opinion that MS deliberately sabotaging people’s workflows is a bad thing? Pathetic.

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        Man, you sure are getting messages that I didn’t say out of what I said.

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          I’m really not. Stop being so upset about someone calling out the shitty behaviour of an awful company.

          Microsoft won’t love you for what you’re doing. Nadela isn’t going to send you a bouquet of roses for your efforts.

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            Why do you think I love Microsoft? At what point did I say that? Y’all are trying so damned hard with your “if you don’t hate them, you love them” bullshit. The concept of objectivity is lost on so many people.

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                I don’t know who the fuck “Nadela” is, and I’m too dignified for this “simping” talk bullshit. Whether you’re a troll or just a dumbass, I don’t care. Blocking your ass