Hyundai seems to be the top choice right now. They have the best combination of value, features, technology and reliability.
The Ioniq 5 is, at least where I live in Canada, is on a perpetual waitlist (except for the base 2wd model nobody wants). I’m personally waiting for the Ioniq 7 to replace my rusting Outback.
Given the range of vehicles here, you’re clearly just reading articles rather than looking. From the perspective of US…
Rivian is quite promising but only has two models more competing with Model X, and they’re more expensive than Tesla and haven’t gone through the scaling process Tesla dealt with for Model 3. The long term Investment from Amazon is a huge deal for their future, otherwise I would never have considered them for lasting. Here’s hoping for their new models in a couple years that they promise will be competitive with model 3/y. Well see
Audi has some excellent high end vehicles, more competing against Model S, but slower and more expensive. Last I looked, huge lead time since they’re not made in us and aren’t shipped in quantity
Ford is just starting out, featuring their F-150 Lightning, but only selling high end models with huge dealer markup, and are cutting way back. There’s not really a Tesla they compete against, since Cybertruck would appeal to a different demographic. Even if I wanted a pickup, I wouldn’t want to deal with that nor could afford it
BYD sure looks intriguing for cheap EVs if their pricing is sustainable, but will not be available in US anytime soon. There is not yet any Tesla model these would compete with, but several manufacturers have announced cheap EVs in a couple years and BYD will take at least that long to establish themselves in Mexico in the hope of getting around protectionism, so it might be part of a flood
For EVs available now in the US, Teslas are frequently the less expensive option with the best features and quality. However admittedly there are so few models, from any manufacturer, that it’s hard to see much direct competition
I literally currently own one of the EVs I listed (and also have driven a Model S cross-country), so I have not “just been reading articles”. Tesla’s quality has gone down the shitter, so if that’s what you’re looking for there are much better options. I’m curious as to what features (other than the “self” driving that kills people) you’re missing if not in a Tesla.
Also, Rivian has a truck (how does that compete with the Model X?), and Ford has more than just the truck in the EV space. Are you sure you know what you’re talking about here?
Such as…?
Hyundai seems to be the top choice right now. They have the best combination of value, features, technology and reliability.
The Ioniq 5 is, at least where I live in Canada, is on a perpetual waitlist (except for the base 2wd model nobody wants). I’m personally waiting for the Ioniq 7 to replace my rusting Outback.
What’s the cost and range for all of those options? Do they have self driving?
Does Tesla?
Nice way to say “no”
Currently, only Mercedes Benz has a self driving system, limited to a top speed of 40mph and a few States that have certified it.
Oh nonono anti-Tesla bros… what’s our next cope?
you’d really trust your life to something ‘developed’ by musk?
lol you do you… strange hill to literally die on.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dawn-project-psa-beware-tesla-171700313.html
https://electrek.co/2023/12/11/tesla-dmv-full-self-driving-lie-so-long-allowed-keep-going/
https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/23/23837598/tesla-elon-musk-self-driving-false-promises-land-of-the-giants
https://gotmusked.com/content/full-self-driving-tesla-lies/
And yet it drives better than 90% of the people on the road
Mine does. It drives me to work with no interventions on most days.
For highway driving I don’t think I can go back to another car with a less capable ADAS package. It’s truly a game changer.
lol… do your door handles work? trunk seals?
if you don’t trust them to get simple shit right, how vacuous would trusting their driving tech be?
Yes, I have actually replaced more door handles per mile on my previous cars.
Rivian, Audi, BYD, Ford… and many more. All of which I’d rather own
Given the range of vehicles here, you’re clearly just reading articles rather than looking. From the perspective of US…
For EVs available now in the US, Teslas are frequently the less expensive option with the best features and quality. However admittedly there are so few models, from any manufacturer, that it’s hard to see much direct competition
I literally currently own one of the EVs I listed (and also have driven a Model S cross-country), so I have not “just been reading articles”. Tesla’s quality has gone down the shitter, so if that’s what you’re looking for there are much better options. I’m curious as to what features (other than the “self” driving that kills people) you’re missing if not in a Tesla.
Also, Rivian has a truck (how does that compete with the Model X?), and Ford has more than just the truck in the EV space. Are you sure you know what you’re talking about here?
Yes