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    Country in a trade war / cold war with another country decides to block imports of some product from said other country, citing fears of the product being poisoned. It’s barely news.

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        Yeah it is, and I’m happy about it being posted, it’s not that. I should be less sarcastic and more direct, I am just getting jaded. Thanks for pointing it out.

        I guess what I am saying is more that of course the US is going to try to limit Russian influence and trade, just as Russia does as much as it can. Same with China and Tiktok and whatever.

        It’s reasonable, it’s actually one of the more reasonable things the US does. There are a ton of people around here who cosplay as communists while rooting for fascist Putin who try to blow these things up as an attack on free trade or freedom of speech.

        It’s not like Putin’s people literally wrote and published a book about how they want to do election interference using stuff like this.

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      It’s news. That’s all that matters. Duh. Sheesh.

      Also this is actually a pretty unique and interesting scenario. You ever seen a digital embargo of software from a single country imposed on citizens? Not to mention the dignity and rights violations on both sides…

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    Kaspersky is just one piece of software to avoid. Others include:

    • Telegram
    • Avast AV
    • Anything from 360 Safe / Qihoo 360
    • Opera browser … now owned by above
    • Zoom
    • FileZilla / UTorrent / other PUA that bundles adware and acts essentially as a trojan
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      I’m not sure how that’s relevant. People should be free to use whatever they want. I’m not interested in Russian software, but that doesn’t mean banning it is okay. The same goes for Chinese software like TikTok (not touching that), Iranian software, or North Korean software, if that’s even a thing. I don’t care if literal Nazis made the software, people should be free to use what they want.

      The only areas the government should get involved are:

      • government owned devices
      • public advisories
      • prosecution of crimes where the software is involved

      The software I choose to use is not the government’s business. If I violate a law, charge me with a crime, but don’t preemptively ban stuff.

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        What if said software is being used to manipulate national interests from a civilian level and its owned by an adverserial nation?

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          That’s one of the costs of liberty. The government will need to find another way.

          The barrier to banning something in the interests of national security must be much higher than “this could be used by our enemies.” That’s the entire basis for the War on a Terror, the Patriot Act, and the NSA spying on Americans, and I won’t stand for it. It’s also the same idea as banning books, that’s just not how a free society works.

          You combat misinformation through integrity and transparency, not bans.

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          You do just as you did. Tell people and let them make up their minds. Posts like yours convinced me in the past and it will others in the future .

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        You found one video supporting your viewpoint. Kaspersky’s role in Russian intelligence has been an open secret since the mid 2010s. This is Facebook Anti-Vaxxer “research” methodology.

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          Not that it was a secret at any point. That company has that approach to advertising and PR reminiscent of hacker movies as normies, lamers and “Windows power users” perceive them. Usually when there’s bullshit in one part, you expect it to be there in other parts too.

          But - their “antivirus check tool” or something was very convenient for me to remove winlockers somewhere in 2007. I do remember the good things.

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    You’d think the fact that Kaspersky is useless would be enough to keep people from using it.

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      You would think that but I have a Friend that bought the paid version and swears by it, he had more than enough problems with it blocking everything it wants, I don’t say anything anymore I just shake my head and move on.