reddit and youtube really shouting out how much companies don’t give two farts about its users. there’s so much wholesome and educational content on youtube but, dogs forbid, youtube make $5 fewer in revenue than yesterday 🙄 i can’t wait for grassroots decentralization of the internet, including video
Youtube has been consistently getting worse for the past 10 years now. I keep going back because that’s where all the good content is and I don’t think anyone could possibly create an alternative. It would just cost too much money.
idk, some of my fellow tech furries have ridiculously large homelabs and servers that have massive amounts of storage. i don’t think it’s impossible, but may require someone to come up with a way for us to decentralize video which, ofc, is humungo-bonzonga-jumbo
What’s missing is a monetization strategy. Any social media platform at a scale larger than a small community is going to require some kind of revenue because servers in the basement just aren’t going to cut it for long.
Users might not like ads, but until they are willing to pay for subscriptions, that’s what they’re stuck with.
I wonder what percentage of Lemmy. World users have actually donated. Hopefully it’s sustainable enough that they can do more than pay for servers, but also hire some admins.
The technical aspects, like storage and bandwidth aren’t the only issues (though they are pretty major hurdles). The, arguably, bigger problem is the network effect. If you have the best UX possible and no content creators (that people care about), you won’t get users and without users you won’t get content creators that people care about.
If you have the best UX possible and no content creators (that people care about), you won’t get users and without users you won’t get content creators that people care about.
This. I have a small yt channel, my videos regularly get 10k+ views there. In the early days, I also uploaded to a couple of other sites (dailymotion was one, can’t remember the other). Where I was getting hundreds if not thousands of views on yt, I was getting maybe half a dozen on the other sites. My most popular video got nearly 100k views on yt, and last I looked on dailymotion it had something like 8 views. Needless to say, I didn’t bother uploading to other sites after that and just stayed on yt.
That said, I’m willing to start uploading to peertube once I’ve had a chance to look into it.
oh, of course, you’re absolutely right. it may take another rancid campaign from youtube parallel to reddit’s shenanigans that fill in the ux piece of it. or, who knows, maybe it would grow organically as people start to see their favorite sites and resources always come with a peephole and a coin slot 🙃
One thing I’m curious about… Are you aware of a way to grab an entire channel worth of videos at once? I have a few educational channels I’d like to have mirrored locally just for my own consumption.
We are the commodity for sale to advertisers. We make the content we consume, YouTube makes sure it keeps going, but for the most part they are just perpetuating viewing space for ads.
this, of course, is not inherently bad. but when does it end? when you literally strip away all but 1 cubic centimeter of joy and ease of use of your product just to squeeze out two monies?
reddit and youtube really shouting out how much companies don’t give two farts about its users. there’s so much wholesome and educational content on youtube but, dogs forbid, youtube make $5 fewer in revenue than yesterday 🙄 i can’t wait for grassroots decentralization of the internet, including video
Youtube has been consistently getting worse for the past 10 years now. I keep going back because that’s where all the good content is and I don’t think anyone could possibly create an alternative. It would just cost too much money.
idk, some of my fellow tech furries have ridiculously large homelabs and servers that have massive amounts of storage. i don’t think it’s impossible, but may require someone to come up with a way for us to decentralize video which, ofc, is humungo-bonzonga-jumbo
What’s missing is a monetization strategy. Any social media platform at a scale larger than a small community is going to require some kind of revenue because servers in the basement just aren’t going to cut it for long.
Users might not like ads, but until they are willing to pay for subscriptions, that’s what they’re stuck with.
I wonder what percentage of Lemmy. World users have actually donated. Hopefully it’s sustainable enough that they can do more than pay for servers, but also hire some admins.
true, true, and true. i didn’t even think about admins. just as important D:
That’s already a thing: peertube exists and does a pretty decent job, if being expensive to host and limited in content right now.
both good points
The technical aspects, like storage and bandwidth aren’t the only issues (though they are pretty major hurdles). The, arguably, bigger problem is the network effect. If you have the best UX possible and no content creators (that people care about), you won’t get users and without users you won’t get content creators that people care about.
This. I have a small yt channel, my videos regularly get 10k+ views there. In the early days, I also uploaded to a couple of other sites (dailymotion was one, can’t remember the other). Where I was getting hundreds if not thousands of views on yt, I was getting maybe half a dozen on the other sites. My most popular video got nearly 100k views on yt, and last I looked on dailymotion it had something like 8 views. Needless to say, I didn’t bother uploading to other sites after that and just stayed on yt.
That said, I’m willing to start uploading to peertube once I’ve had a chance to look into it.
oh, of course, you’re absolutely right. it may take another rancid campaign from youtube parallel to reddit’s shenanigans that fill in the ux piece of it. or, who knows, maybe it would grow organically as people start to see their favorite sites and resources always come with a peephole and a coin slot 🙃
One thing I’m curious about… Are you aware of a way to grab an entire channel worth of videos at once? I have a few educational channels I’d like to have mirrored locally just for my own consumption.
youtube-dl is up again since it was taken down last year(i think)
It is! I got it going and was able to download some of what I wanted, thank you for the recommendation!
No worries, just wanted to spread the word of it being back. Only realized it myself recently
i think kresten has the right idea, i’ve heard good things about youtube-dl
The way is PeerTube - federated and peer-to-peer.
We are the commodity for sale to advertisers. We make the content we consume, YouTube makes sure it keeps going, but for the most part they are just perpetuating viewing space for ads.
this, of course, is not inherently bad. but when does it end? when you literally strip away all but 1 cubic centimeter of joy and ease of use of your product just to squeeze out two monies?
“i can’t wait for grassroots decentralization of the internet, including video” 🍻
cheers 🍻 💙