I don’t understand what you’re trying to say with this response. I agree with the reversal completely. I’m willing to listen, because I am sympathetic to all the very real destruction happening over there, but can you explain how shitting on Harris benefits Palestine at all?
Very simple. Enough people withhold their votes and the Democrats will be forced into a ceasefire
Do you think Joe Biden retired for funsies? They looked at the polling and dumped him. And as I was right about before, while everyone told me otherwise, nobody likes Biden anyway.
Enough people withhold their votes and the Democrats won’t have the power to do anything about a ceasefire, but Donald “finish the job” Trump will have the power to make the genocide even worse.
They don’t. But even assuming they did, withholding a vote is going to increase the chances of a party who want to make things worse getting into power.
Your choices are between a terrible status quo and making the situation even worse. Why are you so intent on defending the choice that makes things worse?
There is no difference between this and a strike. Just like with striking if enough people are willing to take the risk the goal will be achieved. If not it results in a loss.
By actively opposing the activism you are ensuring the goal will not be reached. Which in the end will not even be to your benefit if you want ceasefire voters to vote for Harris.
In your analogy, Republican voters are the massive number of scabs coming in to replace the striking workers and thus making the strike ineffective or even counterproductive.
But also… You do understand that this isn’t a strike, right?
You say they’ll be forced into a cease fire. Do you think that’s something they can just flip a switch and make it so? That’s an ongoing war on the other side of the planet involving at least three groups of people. In the meantime, you withhold your vote and Trump becomes president again. Now what?
We gotta get Harris there before we start asking her for favors.
Ok, so let’s assume there is no change in the US stance on Gaza. You and anyone you’ve convinced, don’t vote. Trump supporters are unaffected. Trump is now president. Then what? Have you made the world a better place?
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say with this response. I agree with the reversal completely. I’m willing to listen, because I am sympathetic to all the very real destruction happening over there, but can you explain how shitting on Harris benefits Palestine at all?
Very simple. Enough people withhold their votes and the Democrats will be forced into a ceasefire
Do you think Joe Biden retired for funsies? They looked at the polling and dumped him. And as I was right about before, while everyone told me otherwise, nobody likes Biden anyway.
Enough people withhold their votes and the Democrats won’t have the power to do anything about a ceasefire, but Donald “finish the job” Trump will have the power to make the genocide even worse.
Good thing Democrats have the power to force a ceasefire right now and need exactly 0 votes to do so.
They don’t. But even assuming they did, withholding a vote is going to increase the chances of a party who want to make things worse getting into power.
Your choices are between a terrible status quo and making the situation even worse. Why are you so intent on defending the choice that makes things worse?
Do you know how a strike works?
You do understand that this isn’t a strike, right?
What happens if one person goes on strike?
They get fired.
What happens if enough people go on a strike?
The company has to cave.
There is no difference between this and a strike. Just like with striking if enough people are willing to take the risk the goal will be achieved. If not it results in a loss.
By actively opposing the activism you are ensuring the goal will not be reached. Which in the end will not even be to your benefit if you want ceasefire voters to vote for Harris.
In your analogy, Republican voters are the massive number of scabs coming in to replace the striking workers and thus making the strike ineffective or even counterproductive.
But also… You do understand that this isn’t a strike, right?
You say they’ll be forced into a cease fire. Do you think that’s something they can just flip a switch and make it so? That’s an ongoing war on the other side of the planet involving at least three groups of people. In the meantime, you withhold your vote and Trump becomes president again. Now what?
We gotta get Harris there before we start asking her for favors.
Yes quite literally in one phone call. Do you not think israel is fully dependent on the US?
Why do you think the Palestinians should suffer from three more months of Genocide? The Democrats are in power right now.
Harris has already stated she will keep shipping weapons to israel this week.
Ok, so let’s assume there is no change in the US stance on Gaza. You and anyone you’ve convinced, don’t vote. Trump supporters are unaffected. Trump is now president. Then what? Have you made the world a better place?
Standing up to Genocide is a game of chicken. It means potentially losing if the total amount of chickens is too big.
If enough voters grow a spine however the Democrats have no option but conceding or face certain loss.