• OneMeaningManyNames@lemmy.ml
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    4 hours ago

    The premise of this meme is overly simplistic. Effectively equating a social media platform with a website hosting specific beliefs.

    Here are, from the top of my head, some ways Big Social is different, regardless of country.

    • Hosting a platform with millions or billions of users.
    • Exploiting algorithms that mine sensitive data to an invasive degree.
    • Control the flow of information, to a very granular degree of precision.
    • Experimentally collecting behavioral data in response to said control of information.
    • Modeling user’s life expectancy, sexual orientation, political beliefs, consumer patterns, terminal illnesses.
    • Selling said data and model outputs to private insurance companies as well as police states.
    • Addicting users to withdraw from real life, and get hooked to their screen where they can happily serve the company for data mining.

    I hardly think that any of the above should be gauged by the standards of individual rights to free speech. Even corporate entities viewed as individuals with a right to free speech.

    This is something else entirely, and whoever owns it, out of whichever country must have their ass regulated off.

    Even harder than the EU did.

    Operations of this type and size should be eventually dismantled. They are inherently antisocial, corporatist, and totalitarian in their conception and daily function.

    Sometime ago I started a discussion about the “Role of Attrition” in the effort to dismantle Big Social enterprises Here it is

  • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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    TikTok isn’t “Chinese social media.” China has social media, and TikTok isn’t it; TikTok is American social media that the Chinese control. It’s an engineered product, and the function isn’t showing you videos.

    Both sides are correct. Or at least, half correct. They should both be banning both.

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      5 hours ago

      So it’s a social media, made by China, making it Chinese social media. If you want to argue that its not the social media used by the Chinese, that’s different and should be phrased more clearly.

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      No, China does not control TikTok in the US. TikTok transferred control of the US instance to Oracle (and subsequently the US State Department) years ago.

      https://www.mintpressnews.com/tiktok-chinese-trojan-horse-run-by-state-department-officials/284353/

      The US doesn’t want to ban TikTok. They want to force a sale of TikTok to a US entity, as has been openly stated by the billionaires behind the political push. This is partly to make sure a US oligarch is profiting from the platform’s popularity, and to decrease transparency as US authorities increasingly combat growing leftism and anti-imperialism on the platform among Gen Z.

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      6 hours ago

      The function of no social media is to show you content. It once was to generate revenue, but recently x and meta have become the same propaganda machines as tiktok, just owned by different megalomaniac fanatics

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      TikTok is owned by ByteDance, which is a front for the Chinese Communist Party. It’s being used by the CCP to spread agit-prop and self-destructive crap.

      Other countries use their “social media platforms” the same way, but that’s no reason to make it easy for other governments to destabilize your society.

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    Good riddance! We are finally going to be free from that chinese spyware used to influence people minds and create an addiction stronger than drugs on people of all ages but especially in minors!

    Now we can go back to having only american spyware apps doing that.

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      10 hours ago

      I would argue the same for Twitter and Facebook. Yet the same people said blocking those was authoritarian censorship.

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        Here’s a question to consider; without making any statement on the facts of these particular cases specifically, is it conceivable to you that there could ever be a situation where two countries could institute these specific bans for materially different reasons?

        What I’m asking is, does a universe exist where country A bans access to Facebook, Twitter, etc for entirely or almost entirely different reasons than country B banning access to Tiktok?