• UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    It’s almost like

    Standard issue Reddit format opener is already a bad start.

    every government commits atrocities at some point or another

    What is the point of such a claim? Is the implication that all governments are equally bad? That is both lazy and absurd. Is this some veiled libertarian pitch in favor of ostensibly less government, except still a government and less accountable?

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      Reading comprehension. Learn it. You’ve read a basic statement and put a meaning to it so you can fight someone on the internet. Never said anything about how equal the atrocities were.

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        Reading comprehension. Learn it.

        Is it even possible for you to reply without coming across as smug and condescending? smuglord

        Never said anything about how equal the atrocities were.

        Of course you didn’t. You used the wormy Reddit plausible-deniability format where you imply your position without actually committing to it.

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            It’s almost like every government commits atrocities at some point or another.

            Reading comprehension. Learn it.

            I didn’t imply shit, but you do you.

            If you supposedly implied nothing in that first line, what was the point of that empty and unprovably vague first statement to begin with? Since you’re euphoric and enlightened by your own intelligence, show some spine and tell us.

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              Now you’re dictating how I feel? Jesus. I’m not going to say something I don’t mean/beleave because you want me to.

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                Now you’re dictating how I feel?

                “I didn’t imply shit” about how you feel. smuglord

                I’m not going to say something I don’t mean/beleave because you want me to.

                So you say that people fail at reading comprehension if they don’t derive the meaning you desire them to, and you won’t say what that meaning is. morshupls

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                  How dare you imply meaning in my statements tankie smuglord

                  They really never want to take an actual position. They always retreat to “that’s not what i said!” I don’t understand that, no matter how many times i see it.

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                    It takes it to a whole new level that “you don’t understand” and “you are illiterate” were said alongside “no, I will NOT state what you were supposed to read out of the vague statement.” smuglord

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        Reading comprehension. Learn it.

        Can you please tone down the unnecessary aggression? I understand politics can be sensitive but we prefer to keep this place civil.

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      No, it’s an acknowledgement that pointing out random countries and saying that they committed atrocities with implication of exclusivity is both false and meaningless. For example, countries that had Marxism stain their histories, have seen some of the worst atrocities ever. Marxist regimes are some of the most murderous, extreme, and destructive in human history. It is fair and valid to acknowledge, spread awareness, and learn about these atrocities as well criticize the individuals and regimes responsible, but at the same time time it is stupid and wrong to try and claim that the people of these nations are responsible for the atrocities of their countrymen, past or present, or that their country is in a lesser tier on the morality scale because of the Marxist regimes.