• Mchugho@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    All we need now is infinite money and to convince the entire population to give up their personal transportation. Easy enough

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      1 year ago

      Infinite money if we want to do it immediately. Don’t be so defeatist. Changing hearts, minds, and infrastructure is not immediate.

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        1 year ago

        Nah it’s typical online leftism. Good at defining problems and not so good at working up solutions that don’t just bubble down to “everyone should think like me”.

        Cars are here to stay.

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          1 year ago

          There are plenty of good solutions. Just because you’re only hearing the very valid complaints doesn’t mean solutions don’t exist. They just aren’t going to be easy or immediate. Life doesn’t work that way.

          Cars are indeed here to stay. But we can make cities much better over time.

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            1 year ago

            Well yeah of course. But I think what you’re not factoring in is that people will always choose the convenience of cars. People don’t just drive to and from places in the same city.

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              1 year ago

              I believe I did mention cars as valuable for use outside of cities. I live in the US, cars are an absolute necessity outside of major population centers.

              Even so, cities are better when cars are unnecessary within them. CAPABLE, but unnecessary.

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                1 year ago

                London is what you lot over the pond would call a “walkable city”. Is there still a metric fuck ton of cars? Yes.

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                  Yup, I’ve been there. The story is the same with Paris and NYC. I still prefer those cities over, say, Los Angeles. Cities that have made an effort to be livable without cars are better than cities that haven’t.

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                    1 year ago

                    Well yeah of course they cater to everyone. But a lot of people around here are pro designing cities to be deliberately annoying to drive in which is just the other extreme to LA.

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      You don’t have to give up personal transportation to build public transportation. Are you high? And no, it does not take infinite money. How the fuck do you think that they’re are cities who have already implemented decent public transportation got them? They certainly did not have infinite money.

      Are you always this defeatist?