Kagi Search Changelog
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While they’re a very, very, very, very small search engine, it looks like someone requested a Lemmy search lens and was finally implemented today.

  • cosmic_slate@dmv.socialOPEnglish
    31·
    7 months ago

    This is yet another case of the Fediverse blowing something out of proportions. This shouldn’t surprise anyone using Kagi if they were paying attention to the sources they were using to begin with.

    That said, I still use Kagi and this doesn’t impact my view of them in the slightest.

    Yes, Eich is a very toxic character who should be avoided for his anti-LGBTQ views, but Brave is far from the most controversial data source they could be utilizing.

    Yandex has (had?) a known CSAM issue.

    Yelp manipulates businesses about their reviews, which can help kill off small businesses.

    Mapbox was engaging in union-busting tactics.

    Google continues entrenching themselves in a lot of ways that violate privacy and doing who-knows-what with our information.

    Choosing to use APIs from Brave seems so inconsequential by comparison.

    • poVoq@slrpnk.net
      3·
      7 months ago

      You completely missed the main point: if the Kagi response would have been what you wrote I would agree, but they replied with something much worse, and that’s solely on them.

      • cosmic_slate@dmv.socialOPEnglish
        2·
        7 months ago

        Did you actually read their response? It wasn’t bad at all. As a customer, this is a mountain out of a molehill.

        What’s he to stay? Promise to vigorously look at the ethics of every executive at every data source going forward? That’s a losing proposition. At least the person isn’t bullshitting around pretending to cater to politics then lie about it.

        I can’t think of any data source that would be 100.0% pure, especially once you add in the executives.

        The Fediverse is, yet again, being unreasonable here.

    • sab@kbin.social
      2·
      7 months ago

      I landed on it being a red flag, but nothing so bad that I’ll stop supporting them for now. But given that it’s a paid service, part of what I am paying for is for them to provide a better and more ethical alternative to known free engines. In turn, this means that I hold them to very high standards.

      I’m guessing after the backlash over this they will be even more careful going forwards. It’s impossible not to make mistakes now and then, and though I agree with @poVoq that Kagi’s response here reflected that they had not thought certain issues through enough, I choose to be patient with them for now. At least they are making an effort to communicate rather than just giving empty corporate responses that mean nothing.