I’ll coincide with you in that first-aid-quick-repairs is something people should in the best of cases know how to do, but setting a envirental variable or installing a package is not a “simple thing”. I’ve worked with engineers that programmed math models for a living that had no idea what a enviromental varible even was. Yes is easy to do, but the concept behind it, what it is, what it does and why are not simple, without the right background or the will to learn about the topic.

And, about user and owner. Sure, I get your point and personally I share it. But again, that is an opinion, tell a non-interested-user that they don’t really own their rig until they know how to use the terminal and I assure you that most of them will disagree.

Edit cause I wrongly posted before finishing: Comparing uncloging -manually pushing and pull a bar- or chaning a light -turn left, change, then right- or a breaker -literally just pulling a tab up- are WAY simpler actions. Yes, running apt upgrade is easy, but how you know is all well? That it work? + if I run apt update everyday I see almost no diference in my system, why should I even do something like that

Ikr? “Since it interest me, it you interest you too”

Do you know how everything in your house works? How to repair everything? No right?

Would you be brave enough to mess with the grounding of your house, or the AC or the heaters, the washing machine, the doors? Not eveyone wants mess with every (subsystem) thing in their house/live"

Most of the people I know want their PC to work and if somwthing goes wrong they just send it to repair or ask somebody else to fix it, they don’t wanna do it themselves, which I find normal, they have little to no interesting in PCs, and that is compleatly fine.

And before someone says "Yeah, but the computer won’t kill you if you fuck up the fixing or messing, let me tell you, a “sudo rm -r” or “sudo chown -R” can fuck you system BAR, making you loose important data and info.

-…But refugee -I hear you about to type-, they SHOULD have 10921 back-ups in atleast 2542 independent locations. Yo, they don’t wanna even see the terminal, and you want them to interest themselves for data integrity and redundacy? Come on.

This whole threat is a HUGE circle jerk and a collection of all the “I USE ARCH BTW” variations imaginable.

“WHY WOULDN’T ALL PEOPLE WANT THE KNOWLEDGE TO CRAFT COMMANDS TO MANIPULATE, FILTER AND SEARCH TEXT IN A WHOLE FILE SYSTEM WITH JUST ONE COMMAND? UNCULTURED PESANTS”

Come, not everyone is a computer nerd, nor everyone ones to optimize 30s in the workflow if it means memorizing a bunch of commands, their syntax and options.

Where I come from we just take the meat of the fruit and blend it with milk or water (and yes, we call that juice), I you have never try it, go get a ripe mango, blend it with milk and you’ll have a delicious smootie, you can use water but imh milk is superior for that use case.

Of cours that is no possible with oranges for example, but there a aloooooot mor fruits than oranges.

If you ever have the oportunity to have some guayaba-milk-juice, don’t pass it up, the shit is the nectar of the gods.

People stop buying things because they’ve detached from social media

What do you mean by that? Social media is quite popular.

I do have both.

I didnt say anything about the interoperability. I can imagine some wins… but nothing game changing tbh.

Aw man, I missunterstood everything :(

https://faq.whatsapp.com/1317564962315842/?cms_platform=android

This worked for me!

You can. Up to 7.

It might work with people you know but is harder to convince people you just met, that’s the reason I still use Whatsapp and recently opened an Instagram.

Man,

You are amazing. I wouln’t have had the patience to have that conversation.

Thank you for explaining people… well… Reality.

Just a bit of an off topic point:

I belive the use of “socialism” that the other comenter has is am apropiation or integration of socialisim into the kyriarchy. Defusing and making solcialism anti-revolutionary, taking away what it makes it dangerous and leaving a shell of it self.

Socialism is not anymore the controll of the means of production by the workers (simplify definition) but capitalism where they controlling group give you a bit of assurance and you have to thank them for it.

I understand what you are saying but I do not think making services inaccsessible for a part of the population will be worst in the long run. As the OP of this threat said, bots are a hugh problem. Even with moderate resources a motivated party can do a lot of harm if allowed to have their bots to have access to the service, misinformation is the danger that readily comes to mind. In that sense is easier and more effective -not better or fair- to restrict the access for some, and catch most of bots.

But at the end of the day is all futile, AI will be able to solve most -if not all of- these puzzles soon enough. The best solution imo is to let the bots in, teach people how to read critally and how to cool down before speaking/posting.

But from a bussiness point of view educating people is not very palatable in most cases.

Yooo. You are onto something here.

I was reading the thread thinking “well, it is a good argument” but kernel level access? no thanks.