I’ll ask again because you dodged the important question - Does Palestine have the right to defend itself like Israel and what would that look like to you?

Which specific 2 state solutions are you referring to? I assume it’s the ~1994 deal that collapsed because Israel couldn’t stop their terrorism and assassinations throughout the negotiations, and the Partition Plan that violated the UN charter with respect to national self-determination and carved out the majority of the territory to the minority Israeli population.

To defend the genocide of Palestine as a necessary lesson reveals a let’s say… interesting moral framework - particularly as Israel escalates aggression against Iran and Lebanon. Putting aside the obvious genocidal intent, rhetoric, and action, how does an exterminated population learn any lesson?

Your argument is the best possible case one could make for the genocide of Israel - they are the regional threat and aggressor - they are the ones that (by your sickening logic) need to be exterminated to teach them a lesspn. The outcomes of the actions you’re defending have civilisation-ending consequences one way or another, and zero benefit - why do you hold these positions?

Cancel culture strikes again… From the right as usual.

Palestinians killed in Gaza aren’t terrorists - they’re the victims of a genocide.

Since October 7th, 44,000 Palestinians have been killed compared to 1,706 Israelis. The stats over the past few decades don’t deviate much from this ratio. Israel is killing many times more Palestinians, and a higher ratio of children, they’re seizing land, holding many times more hostages, and committing and proudly documenting countless warcrimes.

Does Palestine have the right to defend itself like Israel? What would that look like to you? I ask mostly because you’re actively supporting an ongoing genocide while blaming the victims of that genocide while applying inconsistent, nonsensical standards across the two groups.

As an alternative, you could try self-hosting searxng if you’re that way inclined.

The important follow-up is to rinse/repeat. This doesn’t stop until the wealth redistribution does, and we regress to corporate town serfdom.

The people that vote for this want their elected government to be so small they’ll be ruled by corporate overlords solely interested in extracting their wealth.

For anyone that couldn’t bother reading the above comment, I’ve given a summary…

hurrrrr I’m incapable of engaging the point people are making.

The cartoon plays with the emotions like the ai image, but the important difference is that people won’t mistake the cartoon for documentation of something that happened.

The cartoon is a fairy tale, that AI image is a lie - the distinction is important.

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They certainly made the GOP start caring about gun control if nothing else… They were also damn good with message discipline, and (unless I’m mistaken), did some great mutual aid.

Answer the question, Rudolph Jitler.

What would reasonable Palestinian self-defence look like?

They keep doing monstrous things and it makes them look like monsters?

Maybe stop doing those monstrous things.

Israel isn’t looking to give up its mantle as the crybully champion of the world any time soon.

If justifiable self-defence by Israel looks like 40,972+ dead Palestinians (mostly civilians as we know) in response to 1,478 dead Israelis, what would justifiable Palestinian self-defence look like? I’ll remind you that as a current or former member of the IDF, every Israeli adult is an enemy combatant.

My understanding is that it’s difficult to prevent kids from dying when you bomb every school, children’s hospital, aid center, and potential Palestinian you see.

Maybe ease up on the genocide and warcrimes rather than crying there’s nothing you can do as you gleefully kill tens of thousands of people in a population that’s mostly children as you scream that they’re animals and you want a second bigger Amalek. Maybe don’t enforce an apartheid ethnostate, maybe don’t seize peoples’ land at gunpoint. Maybe as the global center of Judaism, you should showcase Jewish values rather than missile striking 4 day old newborns.

Police unions - what could possibly go wrong when the members of the arm of state power collectivise to exercise their collective power. The example you’ve selected speaks volumes about your sincerity and/or familiarity with the subject.

Similarly, unchecked power wielded by divine mandate that never had an interest in structural checks. We couldn’t possibly bake such checks into a more democratic, less hierarchical governmental and economic system.

You want to shit on the concept of democracy while you’re at it because of the current state of the US, champ?

Because the lack of privacy is the point?

There’s self-hosted LLMs, (e.g. Ollama), but for the purposes of this conversation, yeah - they’re centrally hosted, compute intensive software services.

Unlike regular piracy, accessing “their” product hosted on their servers using their power and compute is pretty clearly theft. Morally correct theft that I wholeheartedly support, but theft nonetheless.

Yeah - that’s all part of the “unless enough people leave” point.

It really depends on the market though - if it’s not an essential good, it doesn’t need to be replaced (online games). If there’s adequate competition, there’s largely undifferentiated alternatives (utilities around me)… and if not, you probably don’t have a choice (your local government services, monopolies, and shallow markets for essential goods).

Unless they hate it enough to ditch a business or service in great enough numbers that it costs the business more money than they save by outsourcing to a computer, people had better get used to it.

The internet made photos of trump and putin kissing shirtless.

And is that OK?

I’m going to jump in on this one and say yes - it’s mostly fine.

I look at these things through the lens of the harm they do and the benefits they deliver - consequentialism and act utilitarianism.

The benefits are artistic, comedic and political.

The “harm” is that Putin and or Trump might feel bad, maaaaaaybe enough that they’d kill themselves. All that gets put back up under benefits as far as I’m concerned - they’re both extremely powerful monsters that have done and will continue to do incredible harm.

The real harm is that such works risk normalising this treatment of regular folk, which is genuinely harmful. I think that’s unlikely, but it’s impossible to rule out.

Similarly, the dissemination of the kinds of AI fakes under discussion is a negative because they do serious,measurable harm.

Canva’s UI is somehow more fiddly than Word for making edits, but they’ve always seemed like a pretty decent company to me.

…of course that only holds true until it doesn’t - I’m looking at you, Google.