I guess… I am still very skeptical the profit margin even if some people do end up paying for the storage. We’re talking about petabytes on petabytes of data… How many people need to pay a cloud subscription fee to pay for the overhead of the servers?

Idk. This is super suss to me but again, I am clearly not the target market for this service so maybe I don’t have a firm grasp of the landscape.

It cannot be that profitable to have just a bunch of random data on their servers. I have so much junk and random bullshit on my drives, it would take a week of labor just to clean my shit well enough to use it for AI training and as soon as I got any notification about cloud space being full i’d turn syncing off - i sure as hell wouldn’t fork over any money for a subscription. This is such a big bridge to burn, and the server overhead must be massive… I just don’t understand how they could possibly think this is a good business decision.

Idk, maybe i’m just too deep into privacy/FOSS/selfhosting headspace to see things clearly from the normal-consumer standpoint but I just do not understand this. I really wish someone would leek an internal conversation at one of these companies that explains the big-picture strategy with this move.

Lmao

I’m biased but I think everyone should do this. You can basically find the hardware you’d need out of a dumpster, and then you can slowly build your library from there.

If you find torrenting to be distasteful, you can get a cheap USB DVD reader and rip dvds instead.

It’s still technically considered infringement, but at least it’s completely private.

I honestly don’t know why you wouldn’t just do jellyfin, unless you’re limited by your hardware and kodi somehow has less overhead?

They’re both free I guess. You can try them on and see how well they serve tour use case

Maybe in a particular light, but I’m personally of the opinion that intellectual property and patent law is antithetical to good social policy… so idk. Ideally we’d all benefit from the knowledge and ingenuity of all mankind but in a capitalist economic world-view there’s no place for egalitarianism so…

If they can take the same tech and make it better/produce it cheaper then I think that’s great, go nuts.

But that’s obviously just me.

People shit on China all the goddamn time here but they’ve done a prolific job becoming the tech and manufacturing leader in a handful of decades.

Blame it on tech espionage if you want but there’s a reason the US is deadset on targeting Chinese imports, and it’s hardly for any of the security reasons they might be tempted to claim it to be. The US is about to be left behind and it’s noones fault but our own.

This has to be a copypasta

Is mockery not an insult? I’m learning so much today

“i feel like you’re being combative, you’re not engaging with what I’m saying. Makes me think you’re just here to be an asshole”

[Doesn’t engage the content, lobs insults, ‘he did it first’]

“I can see why you might have been banned”

“What do you mean I’m being totally reasonable?!”

There’s something about this format that just feels good, ya know? Like I’m invisible to criticism. I wonder why more people don’t use it

“I get banned for no reason”

Lol yea I can see that

Reminds me of this scene in the big short:

Rabbi Scene

Hey if you find value in paying a subscription go nuts, I won’t throw shade

but i used spotify for almost 15 years. Averaged out to $8 a month that’s more than $1400, and how much of that music do you think I own?

You can do what you want with your money but I’m not paying another dime to subscription streamers. For discovery there’s still radio and youtube and ad-supported streamers, and I still find new artists at music festivals and local venue concerts all the time.

Spotify is a solution in search of a problem.

Idk if I owned as many cds as I’ve spent on music subscriptions I’d own more high fidelity music than I’d know what to do with

Yea I figured, no worries

You’ll own nothing and you’ll like it

Platform agnostic = you own the mp3/FLACC/ect file, and can play it through whatever client you want

Platform Locked = you do not own the files, and they are DRM locked to their proprietary media player (see: spotify, kindle, ect)

Of course there are ways around those locks, but it’s illegal to remove DRM protections (in the us)

I’m realizing that was unclear.

I meant google’s maifest v3, not firefox’s implementation of it.