Bulletproof? Is it waterproof? Ts&Cs say: ‘Failure to put Cybertruck in Car Wash Mode may result in damage’

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    “To prevent damage to the exterior, immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.),”

    Not washing it could fuck it up. Got it.

    “CAUTION Failure to put Cybertruck in Car Wash Mode may result in damage (for example, to the charge port or windshield wipers). Damage caused by car washes is not covered by the warranty.”

    Also washing it could fuck it up.

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        I don’t know about the Cybertruck or its charging port, but cars do have rain sensors to activate the wipers automatically when it rains. Car wash mode likely turns those sensors off to prevent damage to the wipers.

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          It must be something more substantial in this case, tearing the windshield wiper off wouldn’t brick the truck

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            Water gets into the body, which lacks fluid drains and accumulates water, which can potentially reach wiring.

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              I seriously don’t understand how this could be possible. How does the car manage rain water?

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                  I don’t think it’s meant to be driven.

                  I mean… It’s not even meant to be a vehicle, tbh. It’s an ego trip, status symbol, or virtue signal (pick up to 3) in the form of a vehicle.

                  The part where it can propel itself and it’s occupants from place to place is, in fact, a bonus feature.

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          So things normal people do to normal cars but with extra steps and Elon.

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            Have you seen other people in a car wash? Park, reverse, drive but they start holding the brakes when the track pulls them along, leaving antennas up, not closing windows, opening fucking doors… A vast majority of the human population is some level of braindead.

            Fuck me, I’ve seen someone pull up into a manual car wash bay, open all their doors, and wash the INSIDE of their car. This was not a washable interior like a Jeep Wrangler or something, it was a typical sedan with carpeted floors and cloth seats.

            And these people (theoretically) are licensed to drive, right next to you.

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                  Doesn’t it say that the vehicle was bricked, meaning it wouldn’t run after going through the car wash? Isn’t that what happened?

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        Also locks the charging port, turns off the AC, locks the doors and windows. Still nothing that should prevent the car from breaking in a car wash…

        Also, upon reading the article, seems like the car was fine after a reset, it just took 5 hours. Didn’t have anything to do with the car wash it seems.

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      It’s worse than that, washing the car even in wash mode will damage the car because the fucking thing is made out aluminum stainless steel, you know, a mineral that corrodes if exposed to water long enough. It’s mind boggling how badly designed this car is.

      Edit: sorry, confused my minerals there.

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        There’s a few things wrong here. First, it’s made of steel, which is iron and not aluminum. Second, neither of those is as mineral. Third, aluminum has pretty good corrosion resistance in terms of metals.

        None of that is to say that Tesla had any idea what they were doing when designing this monstrosity.

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      They could have solved this with a layer of clear coat.

      Without that, every single one will eventually patina.

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        To be fair patina looks cool on certain things, I just wouldn’t feel comfortable with it on any loving object, who knows what it could damage.

        Edit: err um I meant moving not loving. Unless?

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      FYI you’re supposed to remove all that from normal cars too, it’s not good for the clear coat/ paint

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    Oh shit, the sun came out and I forgot to put my Cybertruck into “Sunlight Mode”.
    It’s bricked now, but it’s really my fault.

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    Telsa’s designers have weird history with water. I get the sense that they just don’t do a lot of proper testing in wet environments.

    For example, it’s not uncommon for a lot of Teslas to actually grow mold in their air filtration system because they don’t properly drain water.

    For example: https://youtu.be/vQxP6PaSmLc

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      Maybe that happens if you design a car like an iPod with a bunch of engineers living in California and Texas.

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        TX and CA do get plenty of rain. In fact, TX gets hit with hurricanes all the time.

        It’s worse: they are not doing sufficient testing. This is why the larger manufacturers are passing Tesla by - they already have the standards and procedures in place.

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          True, and GM makes plenty of cars that rust at the drop of a hat. My old truck had its brake lines sandwiched between the bed and the frame, and they weren’t non-corrosive, so these things regularly fail if you don’t keep them dry.

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      Probably prevents auto engagement of the parking lock and emergency breaking which would result in damage when the car gets dragged along the chain drive in the car wash. At least that’s what that does in my car.

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          Dunno, for my car it is a bit more. No automatic wipers, no automatic braking and it prevents the parking lock and the parking brake from engaging.

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            While that explanation of yours is helpful and comprehensible, the whole thing seems stupid to me. But then again, my 1999 Golf has none of those features and I wouldn’t want them either.

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    “world’s most expensive brick”

    Even this insult gives the Cybertruck too much credit. That piece of shit isn’t worth anywhere near as much as the actual world’s most expensive brick: a standard 400-troy-ounce gold brick, for instance, is worth about $930K today.

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      Those are called “bars” and not bricks, it even says so in your link. So technically it cannot qualify as the world’s most expensive brick since it isn’t a brick at all.

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    Just to play devil’s advocate: throughout the history of capitalism someone surely must have made a more expensive brick (adjusted for inflation).

    That’s the best defense I can give.

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      The Vasa comes to mind. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)

      USSRs space shuttle, although technically that didnt fail on its own.
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buran_(spacecraft)

      The failed Chinese attempts to use stolen SpaceX plans that resulted in at least one town that we know of being destroyed with toxic smoke and fire.

      Virgin’s space program.

      Boeing’s space program. Increasingly, the 737-MAX too.

      Amazon’s space program.

      Musk and the stupid decisions made around Starship, that resulted in over a year of setbacks since the launchpad had a woefully inadequate flame trench that everyone called out long before the first two failed launches.

      The Titanic.

      Related to the last one: OceanGate and the Titan.

      When the Athenians starts the Peloponnesian War by invading a different city state than Sparta(to ostensibly use that city’s military against Sparta), but screwed it up, creating the conditions for them to lose said war.

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        The Buran was actually quite technologically advanced. It was able to fly to orbit and land itself completely autonomously.

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          And they were smart enough to recognize it as a huge boondoggle and cancel it, before killing a bunch of astronauts.

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            It was canceled because of budget issues and also the fall of the USSR itself. USSR wasn’t really doing too hot at the time, economically. Not because it was dangerous. It was obviously proven space-worthy.

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            The only boondoggle was not iterating on the design, especially when they couldn’t launch intelligence payloads to polar orbits. They should have kept the original fleet and been given funding to develop another one - a “space car” for the Shuttle’s “space truck” - that could ferry lighter payloads and a smaller crew to more varied orbits.

            I used to think like you but I’ve grown to like the Shuttle. Without it things like the final Hubble repair and building the ISS would have been a lot more complicated. Yes, it was a very ambitious design with more fatal flaws than we’ll ever really know about - what if it had had a major issue in orbit - it kept the dream of manned spaceflight alive, and built a ton of experience at NASA for managing manned spaceflight.

      • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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        Casa definitely was worth it, just in a different way the king envisioned at the time

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      Tesla made good cars before. It is reasonable to assume that they would continue to do that. The people that have a cyberteuck today are people that paid for it years ago, so they wouldn’t have known how shitty it actually turned out to be.

      I can’t account for Tesla’s continuing and worsenin quality control though as well as their cost saving measures that make the cars less safe. I don’t know how you see those trends and not cancel your pre order.

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        so they wouldn’t have known how shitty it actually turned out to be.

        Hard disagree here. A) I knew from the first moment they showed a picture of it how bad it would be. You could tell it was a car a 7 year old would design and have all the faults that come with that. B) Those people have had years to cancel those deposits, during which we’ve seen how shitty it was going to be.

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      Standard “Good Delivery” 400-oz gold bricks are worth about $930k today.

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    How are there so many things wrong with this vehicle? Like a total recall for the accelerator pedal sounds like the least of their concerns when the car can be bricked by a reboot and the exterior isn’t allowed to have bird shit on it unless it’s removed immediately.

    I mean, I know why. But how? Aren’t vehicles massively regulated? How did any of these make it off the production line?

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        Even if it were, it weighs 3,4 tons empty. Most EU Citizens have drivers licenses that allow cars up to 3,5 tons max. weight, including driver, passengers and cargo.

        It’s impossible to use in the EU without an actual truck driving license.

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        Thank god. At least I won’t die of cringe after seeing this on the streets.

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      Vehicle regulations are typically only for emission standards or exhaust loudness. For the most part as long as the vehicle can do the speed limit there’s very little regulation on the matter.

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        You’re forgetting the annual safety inspection required in most US states. That’ll catch stuff like brakes wearing out, taillights and headlights that need to be replaced, and other stuff.

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      I really wonder if this is just an average shitty car and dumb people buying it ir something historically stupid. Like in 10 years. Youtubers make top ten videos about the dumbest car ever and on number one they are all like: well, we all know what that is, so we might as well skip it.

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        Historical stupid.

        My 2 unprofessional cents, I think the way this vehicle was executed wrong. Everybody understands metal rust even if it’s stainless steel, if you don’t take care of it correctly it will rust. Second, sharp angles on vehicles that will be used by family’s is by far reckless, videos show how sharp they are and how the front trunk can do some real damage to body parts. Lastly, we moved away from strong body structure to prevent deaths when accidents happen. Why are we going back to the 60’s car body structure? Yes we might have better safety equipment in vehicles now, but we still have vehicles that just have 1 airbag, seatbelts, and bad body structure safety.

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        The 21st century DeLorean, only no one bothered making a time machine out of it.

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    Not even a water issue.

    The advisor said that “it is a known issue in the Cybertruck that when you do a screen reset, instead of resetting in the standard two minutes, it takes five hours.”

    This is crappy and lax software testing and verification testing.

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      What even is a screen reset supposed to be here and why would you have to do it? Asking as a pleb conventional car driver whose screen just turns on and off with the car automatically.

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        It’s just like in my model 3 or my wife’s Teluride, the info screen/software can lock up or get stuck in a weird state and both have a way to reset it.

        Normally neither would be a big deal, I push a button(s) and the screen goes black, it comes back up, again no big deal but at least with the Teluride, there’s a the instrument cluster and heads up display to show your speed. I’m assuming the cyber truck is like my model 3 where the speed is only shown on the center screen. If it take’s five hours over the minute of downtime, well that’s going to be a problem. That said, in my model 3, I’ve only had to do this a handful of times on my model 3, mostly because the radio isn’t working and only once on the newer Teluride because the map was stupid.

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          Oh, so an actual reset button like on a PC! Its existence alone is admitting that the firmware is shit. An embedded system should never freeze.

          But admittedly, most car infotainment systems freeze/crash occasionally nowadays. Mine as well but it went with the Microsoft BSOD “solution” and restarts automatically.

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          Jesus I thought the software on my ford was bad. And it is bad but it doesn’t randomly stop working for no reason and have a reset button to fix it. It just doesn’t break.

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    I have zero sympathy for any of the 3878 chumps who wasted their money on this vehicle. They knew exactly what they were getting

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      Quite a few really didn’t.

      It’s incredible how delusional some of these people are, like Twitch Moderator being 100% convinced Amouranth is going to bang them if they spend enough in her Onlyfans tier delusional.

      They are entirely convinced he shits gold and everything he touches is Star Trek tier tech.

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        He chased away the brilliant people to bounce ideas of and that made that stuff work. Now he’s left with a lot of sycophants who just run with every whim. It’s the common story for any authoritarian leader.

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        convinced Amouranth is going to bang them if they spend enough in her Onlyfans tier

        Escort services were invented for people like this

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            That’s Amaranthe you’re thinking of. If you’re a fan of the Swedish metal ‘soprano and gravel’ sound they’re well worth a listen.

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        This is unrelated, but for the longest time i thought thatwhen people talked about amouranth, i thought they talked about that mmo streamer with the filthy room and similar name. I was very confused why everyone wanted to bang him and drink his bathwater.

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          That’s Asmongold. And the bathwater afaik was Belle Delphine. But maybe I missed some stuff, I’m not into that whole Twitch shit.

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        That’s a whole other can of worms, that isn’t even worth discussing. People like that need urgent psychiatric evaluations

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      You never know. Someone could make a time travel movie with it one day and then collectors will pay an arm and a leg for the left door.

      • jkrtn@lemmy.ml
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        “Tell me Future Boy, who’s President of the United States in 2017?”

        “Donald Trump.”

        “Donald Trump? The fraudster? Ha!”

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    This is nothing new from Tesla. My parents have a Model 3 and they can’t use a car wash at all with it. Hand wash only.

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      Car washing mode prevents the automatic wipers from triggering and the charging port from opening, so neither get damaged from the spinning brushes of an automatic car wash. It has nothing to do with whatever caused this issue.

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        So Tesla says they will have the Full Self Driving very soon now for real, but the car can’t figure out by itself it’s in a car wash.

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          Many different brands have a car wash mode for the very same reason. This is not a Tesla thing exclusively.