Its not neccesarily obsessive, its just those happened to be communiies commoted tonleaving the other site, ao it visually appears to be the mainstream thought.
Linux is one of the larger communties who made the jump (in general tech people are more prone to caring about privacy and control, as tech communities in general are some of the largest here on lemmy)
Heck one of the largest communities is piracy discussion.
It’s obsessive hatred of car dependency. It’s not that surprisingly many of us hate cars, it’s that surprisingly many of us hate that you necessarily need a car to do anything outside of the house.
Nooo, I ended up having to filter the fuckcars community because they were angry at ANYBODY that uses a car for any reason - like top voted comments and posts. I saw somebody get jumped by multiple responders for bringing up how there are small towns and people that live hours away from large cities that would still need cars for transportation
Like, I’m as much for improving public transit and reducing the amount of cars on the road in every instance where it’s viable. I specifically moved within 10 miles of my job so I could start riding my bike to work instead of driving my hybrid car. It’s not that I’m pro car, I’m just anti-extremist
I’ve gotten into it with a couple of guys for needing a truck. I’m a construction electrician. That means that in addition to lugging my tools around, I have to transport rather large and heavy pieces of equipment/gear on occasion. I’d happily rock a van, but it’s hell trying to find a 4x4 van (snow) at a reasonable price due to the van life crowd. I’ve had guys say use public transport or car share, like dude, I work 6 days a week, that isn’t viable. It’s a completely one sided conversation with them.
My favorite response was somebody saying small towns in America should still have infrastructure and trains to connect them (which I agree with in theory) because every small town in the UK has them without even realizing there are small towns in the US that could fit the entirety of the UK between them and the nearest other town or city.
Lol nevermind that many of those towns/villages in the UK are centuries old, while many of the smaller towns (especially out west) sprang up specifically because of the national highway system, and also many have died with the introduction of the interstate highway system. I’m all for improving our national rail lines, but it would need to be implemented carefully to ensure that no more smaller towns die out due to lack of service. And to your last point, this is where specifically a high speed rail system would excel, if only just to efficiently cover the vast distances between US towns.
See the issue here is that a lot of these Reddit activists, they start out with a good cause that a lot of people could be sympathetic towards but they end up taking it too far because they’re all terminally online extremists.
Here’s a few examples:
Veganism: A lot of people are on board with treating animals better and eating more plants, but Redditors take it too far by advocating for the complete ban of meat and the prosecution of places like homeless shelters for providing turkeys on thanksgiving because that’s genocide to them.
Cars: A lot people would agree that we should decrease dependency on cars because they’re loud, they pollute, and they’re dangerous, but Redditors take it too far by wanting to ban all cars with no exceptions even if the exception is for parents with disabled kids.
Atheism: A lot of people would consider the possibility of there being no God and that religions deserve criticism, but Redditors take it too far by wanting to force all religious people to convert to atheism… or else.
Work reform: A lot of people support the idea of having stronger work protections and better wages, but Redditors take it too far by either by being full blown tankies or by rejecting the idea of work all together, regardless of how delusional and impractical that is.
Feminism: Most people believe that women should have equal rights and treatment in society, but Redditors take it too far by being full blown misandrists who want to oppress all men and “liberate” women from them.
Not to mention how with every one of these types of communities you always have the classic “you’re either with us or against us” mentality. Every disagreement makes a you a nazi/altright/bigot, their cause is totally comparable to the struggle against nazi Germany and the holocaust, and they are totally the good guys who have the total support of the general public (especially the young people) and that they’re just a minor enemy (read: cartoon villain) away from achieving utopia.
The communities on here are just an extension of those, and they bring with them the same type of toxic idiots to this platform.
For one, if something is described as “carbrained,” the subject is discounting, ignoring or outright rejecting alternatives to driving. A carbrained take would not necessarily be one that prefers cars. A carbrained take would include things like:
“the only way to make more room for people to move from A to B is by adding more lanes to highways!” (a concept that’s proven to only make traffic worse)
“This cycling lane is not being used. Let’s remove it!” (Which may be a fallacy based on the fact that cyclists move more freely in seemingly confined space, or the fact that the specific cycling lane in question may be an isolated lane with no origins and destinations on it)
“What? A bus lane? What a waste of space! Let me drive there!” (where the speaker fails to see that one bus easily holds four dozen people, which would mean four dozen cars not on the road, if & only if that bus is not affected by road traffic.
“We’re wasting money on this high speed railway line between these two cities about 500 km apart!” (failing to see that distances between about 300 to about 800 km are the sweet spot where high speed rail is exactly in that sweet spot of distance where it’s faster than both driving and flying.)
For two, the car lobby is already great at needlessly extending commutes. When the Katy Freeway near Houston was expanded to its current width of 26 lanes, the widest in the world, travel times changed from end to end from just around three quarters of an hour, to more than a whole hour. An increase of about a third. I could go on and on about this, but let’s just say that it takes a lot more to make trains work worse, and generally, if you try to ameliorate transit service by expanding it, that makes transit better for everyone, including car drivers, unlike if you expand highways.
The thing of the anti car dependency movement is that they demand more developments to not to have to drive. They demand more space be dedicated to more sustainable developments, with less parking, uses closer together, more room for people out on foot or bikes to get where they want to go, all that jazz.
Ultimately, the anti car dependency movement wants freedom. The freedom not to have to drive if you don’t want to, don’t need to, or for any reason cannot. And that is what carbrained people are not getting.
linux users are of course the first to move to something like this, and the /r/fuckcars community is as well now a bit. also let’s be honest, fuck cars. and fuck windows.
I’m very tech savvy for an old un, and I’m perfectly happy using Windows; it’s easy to configure to do exactly as you want, and maybe it’s an EU thing but I’m not seeing any ads
What pisses us off is whenever there’s a question about Windows, multiple Linux kids will flood the thread with “tHiS doESn’t hAPpEn iN LiNuX”
If someone asked why their headlights weren’t working on their 2014 VW Golf, and someone answered, “Well I have a 2009 Ford Focus and this doesn’t happen”, you’d think they were a fuckin idiot, wouldn’t you?
If the VW Golf had a complete monopoly on the car market to the point where you had to spend years jumping through hoops just to be able to drive your Focus on the roads, despite the Golf being an extremely shitty car when taken on its own merits, you’d probably be pretty resentful to the people who enable that monopoly, too.
No, it sounds like people who are constantly being told that Linux is “too hard to use” compared to Windows speaking up when they see a blatant example of that not being true.
I think you just inadvertently called them morons, lol. In any case, I used Linux exclusively for about five years. It is more difficult for most users than windows. The majority of the time, with windows, you just plug shit in and it will work for you. On Linux, it requires you to research what MAY work for your hardware. Often times, if it does work, you are missing features for your hardware. For software, you generally have to look up programs that will do what you’d like, as most mainstream programs aren’t released for function with Linux. Additionally, most users are not familiar with our comfortable enough with using command line interfaces. You must be able to use command line as a Linux user. I haven’t used Linux in approximately a decade, so some things might have changed, but people won’t know that because the issues I pointed out were true for a long time. Most people aren’t savvy enough to use Linux and they don’t have the time/patience to learn it. Why this makes Linux users upset, I’ll never know, it’s all rather silly and unimportant.
The ads thing is because you probably have a different idea of what an ad is then they do. Usually when they are talking about ads, it’s self-promotional stuff. Teams being built in, Onedrive asking to be setup, and especially Edge constantly begging you to give it a chance.
There’s also that link to the Microsoft store for Candy Crush in the start menu of fresh installs of Windows 10. I imagine that’s what kicked off the whole ‘loaded with ads’ thing. That’s one anyone can agree on.
It’s not an EU thing. As an American, the small popups that show EVERY NOW AND THEN are not that big of a deal. I use windows for work, mac for personal, and Linux for other things like my server and hobby projects. Linux has regularly given me the most trouble.
What about the obsessive hatred of cars and Windows?
THAT I actually enjoy
Its not neccesarily obsessive, its just those happened to be communiies commoted tonleaving the other site, ao it visually appears to be the mainstream thought.
Linux is one of the larger communties who made the jump (in general tech people are more prone to caring about privacy and control, as tech communities in general are some of the largest here on lemmy)
Heck one of the largest communities is piracy discussion.
Not entirely correct.
It’s obsessive hatred of car dependency. It’s not that surprisingly many of us hate cars, it’s that surprisingly many of us hate that you necessarily need a car to do anything outside of the house.
Nooo, I ended up having to filter the fuckcars community because they were angry at ANYBODY that uses a car for any reason - like top voted comments and posts. I saw somebody get jumped by multiple responders for bringing up how there are small towns and people that live hours away from large cities that would still need cars for transportation
Like, I’m as much for improving public transit and reducing the amount of cars on the road in every instance where it’s viable. I specifically moved within 10 miles of my job so I could start riding my bike to work instead of driving my hybrid car. It’s not that I’m pro car, I’m just anti-extremist
I’ve gotten into it with a couple of guys for needing a truck. I’m a construction electrician. That means that in addition to lugging my tools around, I have to transport rather large and heavy pieces of equipment/gear on occasion. I’d happily rock a van, but it’s hell trying to find a 4x4 van (snow) at a reasonable price due to the van life crowd. I’ve had guys say use public transport or car share, like dude, I work 6 days a week, that isn’t viable. It’s a completely one sided conversation with them.
My favorite response was somebody saying small towns in America should still have infrastructure and trains to connect them (which I agree with in theory) because every small town in the UK has them without even realizing there are small towns in the US that could fit the entirety of the UK between them and the nearest other town or city.
Lol nevermind that many of those towns/villages in the UK are centuries old, while many of the smaller towns (especially out west) sprang up specifically because of the national highway system, and also many have died with the introduction of the interstate highway system. I’m all for improving our national rail lines, but it would need to be implemented carefully to ensure that no more smaller towns die out due to lack of service. And to your last point, this is where specifically a high speed rail system would excel, if only just to efficiently cover the vast distances between US towns.
Nah man, there’s some crazy fucking Fuck Cars peoples who don’t even think parents of severely mentally disabled children should have a car.
There’s always absolute extremists, and they are never fucking silent.
See the issue here is that a lot of these Reddit activists, they start out with a good cause that a lot of people could be sympathetic towards but they end up taking it too far because they’re all terminally online extremists.
Here’s a few examples:
Veganism: A lot of people are on board with treating animals better and eating more plants, but Redditors take it too far by advocating for the complete ban of meat and the prosecution of places like homeless shelters for providing turkeys on thanksgiving because that’s genocide to them.
Cars: A lot people would agree that we should decrease dependency on cars because they’re loud, they pollute, and they’re dangerous, but Redditors take it too far by wanting to ban all cars with no exceptions even if the exception is for parents with disabled kids.
Atheism: A lot of people would consider the possibility of there being no God and that religions deserve criticism, but Redditors take it too far by wanting to force all religious people to convert to atheism… or else.
Work reform: A lot of people support the idea of having stronger work protections and better wages, but Redditors take it too far by either by being full blown tankies or by rejecting the idea of work all together, regardless of how delusional and impractical that is.
Feminism: Most people believe that women should have equal rights and treatment in society, but Redditors take it too far by being full blown misandrists who want to oppress all men and “liberate” women from them.
Not to mention how with every one of these types of communities you always have the classic “you’re either with us or against us” mentality. Every disagreement makes a you a nazi/altright/bigot, their cause is totally comparable to the struggle against nazi Germany and the holocaust, and they are totally the good guys who have the total support of the general public (especially the young people) and that they’re just a minor enemy (read: cartoon villain) away from achieving utopia.
The communities on here are just an extension of those, and they bring with them the same type of toxic idiots to this platform.
They use carbrains as an insult. They expect people to add an hour to any commute.
For one, if something is described as “carbrained,” the subject is discounting, ignoring or outright rejecting alternatives to driving. A carbrained take would not necessarily be one that prefers cars. A carbrained take would include things like:
For two, the car lobby is already great at needlessly extending commutes. When the Katy Freeway near Houston was expanded to its current width of 26 lanes, the widest in the world, travel times changed from end to end from just around three quarters of an hour, to more than a whole hour. An increase of about a third. I could go on and on about this, but let’s just say that it takes a lot more to make trains work worse, and generally, if you try to ameliorate transit service by expanding it, that makes transit better for everyone, including car drivers, unlike if you expand highways.
The thing of the anti car dependency movement is that they demand more developments to not to have to drive. They demand more space be dedicated to more sustainable developments, with less parking, uses closer together, more room for people out on foot or bikes to get where they want to go, all that jazz.
Ultimately, the anti car dependency movement wants freedom. The freedom not to have to drive if you don’t want to, don’t need to, or for any reason cannot. And that is what carbrained people are not getting.
My e-bike runs doom perfectly on arch. I don’t see the problem.
That’s because you don’t change the driver.
linux users are of course the first to move to something like this, and the /r/fuckcars community is as well now a bit. also let’s be honest, fuck cars. and fuck windows.
Tried it, burned my genitals on the exhaust pipe.
Fuck cars? (Not work friendly, unless you work at redtube)
deleted by creator
I’m very tech savvy for an old un, and I’m perfectly happy using Windows; it’s easy to configure to do exactly as you want, and maybe it’s an EU thing but I’m not seeing any ads
What pisses us off is whenever there’s a question about Windows, multiple Linux kids will flood the thread with “tHiS doESn’t hAPpEn iN LiNuX”
If someone asked why their headlights weren’t working on their 2014 VW Golf, and someone answered, “Well I have a 2009 Ford Focus and this doesn’t happen”, you’d think they were a fuckin idiot, wouldn’t you?
If the VW Golf had a complete monopoly on the car market to the point where you had to spend years jumping through hoops just to be able to drive your Focus on the roads, despite the Golf being an extremely shitty car when taken on its own merits, you’d probably be pretty resentful to the people who enable that monopoly, too.
Your example sounds like the morons that respond to Amazon product questions.
Lol Amazon comments are a league of their own. Half the questions are:
Q) Does product do thing?
A) I don’t know
No, it sounds like people who are constantly being told that Linux is “too hard to use” compared to Windows speaking up when they see a blatant example of that not being true.
I think you just inadvertently called them morons, lol. In any case, I used Linux exclusively for about five years. It is more difficult for most users than windows. The majority of the time, with windows, you just plug shit in and it will work for you. On Linux, it requires you to research what MAY work for your hardware. Often times, if it does work, you are missing features for your hardware. For software, you generally have to look up programs that will do what you’d like, as most mainstream programs aren’t released for function with Linux. Additionally, most users are not familiar with our comfortable enough with using command line interfaces. You must be able to use command line as a Linux user. I haven’t used Linux in approximately a decade, so some things might have changed, but people won’t know that because the issues I pointed out were true for a long time. Most people aren’t savvy enough to use Linux and they don’t have the time/patience to learn it. Why this makes Linux users upset, I’ll never know, it’s all rather silly and unimportant.
The ads thing is because you probably have a different idea of what an ad is then they do. Usually when they are talking about ads, it’s self-promotional stuff. Teams being built in, Onedrive asking to be setup, and especially Edge constantly begging you to give it a chance.
There’s also that link to the Microsoft store for Candy Crush in the start menu of fresh installs of Windows 10. I imagine that’s what kicked off the whole ‘loaded with ads’ thing. That’s one anyone can agree on.
deleted by creator
Also why always car analogies
deleted by creator
It’s not an EU thing. As an American, the small popups that show EVERY NOW AND THEN are not that big of a deal. I use windows for work, mac for personal, and Linux for other things like my server and hobby projects. Linux has regularly given me the most trouble.
not to be that guy (i definitely am) but philosophy is political, just less obviously so
deleted by creator
All good I’m just one of those people that has an itch to interject with barely relevant context in a lot of discussions lmao
As a European, car loving Windows users I don’t think I’m accepted here tbh
cars and anything not FOSS*
deleted by creator
As long as you stay on the meme subs it’s fine
This is posted on a meme sub, can’t stop the bitching about memes about politics
deleted by creator
I dunno, I use archmemes